Comments on: Why?

By: gusto5

gusto5 — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:25:24 +0000

balls? since when did having faith have anything to do with balls?

By: sherman

sherman — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 04:54:37 +0000

there’s no need to reiterate what’s already been said, but you have to give him credit for having the balls to do what he did, regardless of if he was being pushed by the board or not. there was one guy who came in this past summer and blatantly remarked at how his (arthur’s) flock/congregation was tardy, and he said something should be done. but no one took it to heart, as people still continually came in late.

don’t know how effective this incident will be to discourage future tardiness . but art singlehandedly made the church look unfriendly and unwelcoming; no one should be scared into coming into service/church/fellowship on time, they should be present because they want to be there.

i guess all we can do now is to pray for him. i do hope he’ll mention it next sunday, to give clarity to what he did and ask for forgiveness if needed.

By: gusto5

gusto5 — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:15:40 +0000

No resentment. Just sad that such a thing was used.

By: larker

larker — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:57:05 +0000

it was pertty shocking after i realized what he was doing. at first i thought it was to prove a point about the day’s message, kinda like, well, we had an abundance of seats inside the sanctuary with very few people (like the global north) vs. the general lack thereof with lots of people (like the global south), but that turned out to be too naive a guess. i was inside when it happened and i’ve no idea what happened outside, whether he actually confronted the people coming in or not, but… i guess it was a pretty gutsy move on his part. i’m 100% convinced he did it with the right intentions, but probably not with enough premeditation/foresight. i’m guessing that he must’ve been pushed pretty hard by the board about that to have done something so drastic, and without warning too… that man’s got a tough job. he was terribly broken up about it too… unlce kin was pretty pissed, as i’m sure a lot of other people are too. what drama. nevertheless, let’s not harbor any resentment.

By: sixsteps | 2 Samuel 6:13 » What are you thinking?

sixsteps | 2 Samuel 6:13 » What are you thinking? — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:56:58 +0000

[...] My pastor locked out the congregation this morning from the sanctuary for the whole opening music set during Sunday Service cause most people were just overly late. I’ve seen the responsibilities & authority that he’s been given (albeit too much) and I am humbled that he’s got the willingness to take it on his shoulders. Having learned enough about ecclesiology & how different denominations manage their churches, I know that I would not want his job, especially in this Alliance church structure. I am thankful that he has accepted the Divine burden of taking care of us sinful sheep, and pray that God would give him the strength to persevere missionally, and to discern discern and discern everything he reads in this crazy postmodern age so that he learns to preach God’s all-sufficient and infallible Word expositionally. And for my church, I pray that we would grow to become a church that is Biblical and missional in all we do. [...]

By: gusto5

gusto5 — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:32:14 +0000

Thanks

By: Alex Leung

Alex Leung — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:47:18 +0000

Good intentions & the right loving, caring heart behind it… but as I have talked with our Elder after the Chinse service about it, the method used to get the point across was inappropriate. It is unfortunate that such occured, that there will be repercussions for Pastor Arthur and those who affected.

And in this postmodern age, HOW you do what you do is very important in spite of the why. I think we definitely need to pray for our Pastor, our Elders and ourselves in these times and situations.

Kyrie eleison.